Mayor Fressola Responds to Pine Lake Swimming Concerns

Lake has been closed to swimmers for years because of pollution

The following is a response by Mayor Michael Fressola to Manchester Patch readers who left comments on .

Fact No. 1 – 30 years ago people did all kinds of things they would not do today, including swimming in waters without knowing the conditions of the water.

Fact No. 2 – The landfill was approved by the State in 1972 and is under the control of the State and the County and not under Township jurisdiction.

Fact No. 3 – However, each and every concern was brought to the attention of the operators of the landfill by the Township. The issues they had control over were addressed.

Fact No. 4 – The net dollars coming to the Township as “Host Community Benefits” are well under the $5 per ton figure he stated and this money is used in the operation of the Township.

Fact No. 5 – I agree seagulls and geese are a contributing problem. Over the years we have tried many methods to control this problem at a substantial cost to the Township, to no avail. This is a worldwide problem. If you doubt that, I would suggest you Google or Wikipedia search and you will see the hundreds of thousands hits worldwide.

Fact No. 6 – Over the years we have monitored the water quality of the lake and found during very dry periods of time the water quality, while not pristine was safe for swimming and it was allowed. These times were few and far between, so the prudent decision was made in the interest of the health of our residents to ban swimming.

Fact No. 7 – During the period of time when regular testing was done, it was found that the major source of pollution was not, and I repeat not, caused by the birds but from the runoff both local and from Jackson Township.

Fact No. 8 – Why is it that so many are willing to comment on issues without having any first-hand knowledge of the issues? I have lived with this troubling issue for over 22 years. If my detractors have a viable solution, that would not cost tax payers millions of dollars, please bring it to me. We will give you credit if it works. Somehow I believe that will not occur. What will occur is that the completely uninformed will continue to comment and disparage.

Michelle, thank you for filling me in on the early history. I have pictures before and during the major construction and enlargement in 1938.  Pictures before show what you would call a very small pond.

Submitted by Michael Fressola,

Frederick John LaVergne for Congress September 12, 2012 at 12:17 PM
If, however, there are harmful chemicals in the water, much more needs to be done. I think an OPRA request on testing and treatment efforts is in order. Approaching a problem by arguing over whether enough was done or not only discusses the past, and offers no solution. If you keep doing what you're doing, you keep getting what you've got. Frankly, the same applies in the upcoming election. Scott Neuman, and independent running as a "Democratic-Republican" for Ocean County Freeholder. Scott and fellow candidate Tracy M. Caprioni of Brick are dedicated to "cleaning up" the county, from environmental issues to corruption. They intend an open-door, broad-daylight policy on all issues addressed by the freeholders. No more "executive session" backroom deals, no-bid work, or special treatment for "contributors". I will be running with them for the Congressional Seat in the Third District, and will take the same policy with me to Washington. Tired of a two-horse race where the same stable owns both horses? Here's the solution....Vote "Democratic-Republican" this fall. Still not convinced? Watch the news for what we've already done for you to protect our Constitution and restore the control of government to We, the People. We're in court this week in the Federal Third Circuit Court of Appeals to compel recognition of the ratification of Article the First of YOUR Bill of Rights, and it's application. Also going to court to enforce election laws as written.
Billabong September 12, 2012 at 12:19 PM
Mark, I cannot say it any better than you have. From the spray park to the Walmart to the continued non-action on dangerous intersections in PLP, it's woefully obvious that the middle class families always take a back seat to the seniors in Manchester and that's simply not right. You did fail to mention the new housing complex that was approved across from town hall, which will increase the number of students in Manchester schools (you know, the school system where passing a budget is darn near impossible because the senior communities overwhelmingly vote it down year after year). The fact that Manchester families were able to pass full-day Kindergarten four years ago was an absolute miracle. The middle class families feel ignored and underserved in this town. Either the mayor is unaware of this or simply does not care. Maybe the mayor needs to write a letter of response detailing the work he has done on behalf of us working class families because in my time living in this town, I haven't seen much of anything.
bob migliaccio September 12, 2012 at 12:29 PM
I believe seniors make up 65% of Manchester's population, it would be difficult but not impossible.
Billabong September 12, 2012 at 01:59 PM
Mark, I disagree. I blame the way many seniors vote when it comes to the school budget. I have kids in the school system and I have not voted "yes" on every budget. In these crummy economic times, I look at the budget and try to determine needs from wants. I'm all for a new roof but I'm not voting for new ball fields. That being said, Manchester seniors systematically vote down each budget and it's just not right. A good school system benefits the quality of life in an entire town and it would be nice to have support now and again. I'm not a teacher but I consider education very important. I'm not going to be one of these "no" button pushers when my kids move on from Manchester schools. I guess I look at it as a "pay it forward" kind of attitude.
MichaelH September 12, 2012 at 02:12 PM
I just wanted to chime in about the nursing home being shot down. This effort to oppose was lead by a mix of residents. It cost residential families living near the proposed facility more than $50,000 to hire legal assistance or they couldn't be heard by the BOA. These families have taken out loans to pay back the legal fees and the fight isn't over. Why did he make this deal with his developer friends and then the families have to fight with their money and energy to show why a huge for profit commercial business did not have the right to change our residential zoning. Yes, thanks to the help of the level headed seniors who came out in support there were many voices heard. The mayor still didn't care. He has no regard for anyone except those living in his adult community. Now, I have heard that he is working on yet another backdoor deal in a residential area. He is out of control, arrogant, and shows no respect for the residents. WE, THE RESIDENTS OF ALL AGES WHO HAVE CHOSEN TO INVEST IN A RESIDENTIAL HOME IN THIS TOWN DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN A CITY LIKE LAKEWOOD HAS TURNED INTO. STOP MAKING DEALS BEHIND OUR BACKS!
Scott Neuman September 12, 2012 at 02:24 PM
Four people running for three seats this year. Learn about your candidates.
Bryan September 12, 2012 at 06:21 PM
@MARK i saw the land cleared but dont know what it is,MY GUESS is more over priced over taxed homes. As far as the apartments go i dont wantto see them due to more kids in the school system. Thats just my point they worry about dumb stuff like the walk to the dumpster etc,and the additional cost for school buses etc!
Bryan September 12, 2012 at 06:23 PM
Ment to say instead of the cost for the school buses etc
Mark Wendell September 12, 2012 at 08:41 PM
@Bryan, I think the people to ask about the schools would be Mr Trethaway or Mr Lorentzin. If they say the system can do it than I don't see a problem. I do not think we are at the max number of students and I think the referendum already took it into account that the town was growing. Growing at the pre crash figures so we should be fine.
Mark Wendell September 12, 2012 at 08:45 PM
@ billabong, I was referring to the general elections not the BOE elections. They do as you say. I have former educators in my family and as soon as they got older it is all about the money and they turn the no button. I don't get that at all. Bob Migliaccio had a lower number than some of us regarded the amount of seniors but normally they are like a 75% or so turnout when PLP is lucky if it hits 10 or 12%. If the senior makeup is closer to what Bob says we would have a chance IF we had a tremendous turnout.
Mark Wendell September 12, 2012 at 08:47 PM
@Billabong, Thank You
Bryan September 12, 2012 at 10:20 PM
@ FREDRICK:by open door policy at the freeholders offices does this mean no more freeholders meetings during work hours when the tax payer are at work (that is if you still have a job after " hope & change" ) so people know when they are if they wish to attend?
Scott Neuman September 12, 2012 at 11:25 PM
Bryan, I know that when I saw the Freeholders meetings starting at 4:00pm, when most 9 to 5 folks are working, this to me isn't an open door meeting. I'd be making a proposal to move the meeting to 6:30 or 7:00pm.Many townships hold their meetings after 5:00pm. I have no issues with it on my end. I'm sure it would work for Tracy also.
So Much to Say September 12, 2012 at 11:39 PM
Letting the Freeholders take over Pine Lake. Why can't the Freeholders take care of the parks we already have. Prime example of why you should NOT be an Ocean County Freeholder.
Scott Neuman September 13, 2012 at 12:48 AM
One thing I don't want to make this about is Age Class. That gets nothing done. If you feel the Mayor runs the show, you should have filled to run for the board. There was three openings this year and only five seats total.
Scott Neuman September 13, 2012 at 12:56 AM
Mr. Mayor and Council and Council elect. I drove over to the lake today with Frederick LaVergne. As you know, Frederick and I are running as Democratic - Republican Party Candidates. We're trying to get past the bickering that goes on between the two super parties and move back to a time when people worked together so that we'll find solutions to problems. One problem is the lake and how nice it would be to be able to use it again. So today Mr. Lavergne and I drove over to the lake and will have the water tested. In my first scoop of water samples by the dam, all sorts of fun little critters were seeming in the sample. People we also catching Bass and other fish. We didn't see any hard core pollution we'd hoped to find. One other thing we didn't see a lot of was the Geese. We counted three and one had a broken wing so we had just a few geese but a decent amount of poop along the shoreline. We saw more dog poop and the park isn't supposed to allow dogs so what's up with that. So to help the township out, we'll have the water tested and make some suggestions that won't cost millions of dollars to repair the lake and maybe in one or two years, we'll have a swiming lake again. The Crawfish idea is a simple very cost saving idea. It's very possible the Mayor hasn't tested the lake in a few years (and I don't recall him mentioning the last time it was tested). Also, if pollution is the issue, I'd like the EPA to do a run up the branches and find it. We don't want it in Manchester.
Scott Neuman September 13, 2012 at 01:48 AM
Also, I'm interested in where the pollution is coming from. I realize that if there is pollution here, we're sending down the river and into the Bay but when looking at a Google Map I see the stream/river/branch coming from Horicon Lake. This is also branch feed but people swim there all the time. So it looks like 50% of the water feeding Pine Lake Park isn't polluted from what is sent from Lake Horicon. I understand the Mayor has the test results but I wonder if the test results test both of the two small branches before it hits Pine Lake. So assuming (and until I get test results, I'll assume) the Union Branch and Manapaqua branch aren't the issue(runs through the military base so hopefully they are good neighbors?. That leaves the feeds from nature reserves like Colliers Lake and Success Lake that feed into Ridgeway Branch. None of these look like what most of us would consider to be a river and they are feeding from springs up north. Mayor can you run three tests. A water test on the Ridgeway Branch before Pine Lake, one on the Union Branch and of course the lake and publish the results via Patch/Asbury Park Press and the main website for the township. As I mentioned, I'm sure you tossed your hands up in fustration and I'm sure you'd like to offer another fine park to the township residents. I'm taking you up on your offer. Depending on the pollution and what type, We have a college full of kids that would love to help out from Stockton State that will walk the river.
Scott Neuman September 13, 2012 at 03:15 AM
"So Much to Say". Which County Park do you feel isn't up to snuff? Most of the ones I've used have been pretty well mantained. Pine Lake, since it's being treated a retention / run off area isn't. But a major water source for the lake is Lake Horicon in Lakehurst. A lake everyone is encourged to swim in. Lake Horicon has 66% less surface area and would be more flooded by pollution then Pine Lake. I'd just like a recent test. If the Township doesn't want to keep it up to recreational standards, lets deed it to the county.
Outlaw September 13, 2012 at 03:38 PM
I agree, let someone else take over the management of PINE LAKE PARK. At least it will be properly maintained and open, since it is tested all Summer long, on the days when the water quality is good people will have the option of swimming!
Outlaw September 13, 2012 at 03:40 PM
You are right on Target! Time for some Young Blood and CHANGE!
Outlaw September 13, 2012 at 03:44 PM
Actually, since I live in the Lake area, I can tell you Mosquito's are not an issue! Your ideas sound fantasic!
Outlaw September 13, 2012 at 03:59 PM
Thank you sir, as a person that has lived in the Lake area for many years, I would love to see your ideas come to pass! I can say I have seen first hand what goes on at the lake and what does not, since I live right here. The township has long forgotten about this park and the beautiful lake, that once had a swimming dock, Paddle Boats and lifeguard stands. Now we have the water park that was barely open at all the whole Summer, which is an excellent and free activity for families. From what I can see in the many years I have lived here, is that they only do what they have to do in the Park (Public Works) and really not even a good job. I look forward to your excellent ideas!
Bryan September 13, 2012 at 04:47 PM
@ mark i did see that there a sign at the site on rt 70 and it is going to be professional offices @ scott, you guys are soo right and would love to see these ideas at work i m sure there are plenty of schools that would love to study this for free NOTICE NO REPLY FROM OUR MAYOR YET?
Scott Neuman September 13, 2012 at 05:35 PM
Just so everyone knows. I am not attacking the mayor or the council. The mayor said if someone had ideas and not just complaints, he'd like to hear them. Since I, my family and the friends I've made are here, I'm going to take him up on his offer. Many of people running for change under the Democratic-Republican Party have a array of talents and contacts and have offered to help because if their love and understanding of preserving the natural resources in Ocean County.
So Much to Say September 13, 2012 at 11:34 PM
@Scott Neuman The brand new park @ Traders Cove was disgusting. As for the Freeholders taking over a Manchester Park because Manchester is unable to do the job is ridiculious. With ideas like yours, the last thing Ocean County needs is you and your cohorts as Freeholders.
ballyjduf September 14, 2012 at 06:08 PM
Frederick John LaVergne for Congress September 14, 2012 at 06:21 PM
Scott, other than the possible coliform contamination that would occur periodically from animal droppings (geese, dogs, etc.), it would appear the sample we took is "clean". I have not yet tested for bacteria or heavy metals - have to send it out for that. I will speak to my friends at SSC and see if a lake survey can be done as part of a class. Meanwhile, what did concern me, as you know, was the "foam" under the spillway - "iron" foam is more brown tinted. This looked like organic contamination (protein from dead plant tissue rotting on the bottom). Weed and plant cover on the lake surface is not excessive. Keeping the beach area clean and testing for coliform bacteria on a regular basis is probably all that needs to be done to use the facility for swimming, again, although I still recommend a sand-drop in the "safe-swim" area. Review "Safe-Swim Defense" on macscouter.com, (as you are now involved in Scouting like Don, Tracy, and I). Len Marshall (Our District Four Congressional Candidate) is very familiar with that specific river system. We may take a closer look at things in the coming weeks. Metals and phosphates may show up from the dump and lawn fertilization washing in from street drains, as well as leaching in from septic installations. This was a problem nationwide in the 1960's and 1970's, and prompted many communities to switch to sewers. All of these rivers and streams end up in the bay, so checking for the real causes is necessary.
ballyjduf September 14, 2012 at 10:19 PM
Mr Mayor who do you support Romney or Obama
ballyjduf September 17, 2012 at 04:12 PM
Didn't think you would answer Mr Mayor who do you support Romney or Obama
Bob Hockenfrocken September 26, 2012 at 02:19 AM
Build Wal-Mart


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